I started tapping this blog entry as we reached our cruising altitude on a flight home. It’s been a long weekend with a lot going on work-wise. Good stuff for the cotton business, but there seemed to be more than a few things making me feel a bit off my pace. I know it won’t be posted til I’m home but I want to capture these thoughts. I’ll need to reread because I’m not so great on the Blackberry for the lengths this will likely go.
Although I’m a frequent traveler, rarely does the person in the seat next to me garner such a reaction. What makes this flight home different?
The day itself has been far less than the stellar day I was hoping for. I have been rained on, delayed, and pushed around, really hungry I even had to run through Atlanta’s airport. But a few hours ago, I decided I’d keep a positive mindset. So when I saw a very friendly face look up & smile as I reached my row on the last plane of the day, I thought the day was finally taking a turn for the positive. I was looking for improvement too soon though.
Friendly Convo To Start
Conversation started off friendly enough, albeit sad. The woman next to me was concerned about a friend sitting in first class. The pair is traveling together, but only one got upgraded. Her friend is in the final stages of lung cancer, so of course my seatmate is deservedly concerned about her.
Our conversation turns to the normal chit-chat that I have to admit I usually avoid on flights. She’s from London originally, hence the accent I noticed she has but she was right it had mellowed since she’s lived in Memphis a long time. I’d been running all day and was just glad to be on the final leg of this trip. I asked what she does and she says mostly volunteer work now. She asks me and I reply that I work in the cotton business for a company that improves seeds… its Monsanto & the seeds are called Deltapine.
There was an audible gasp, and her eyes opened so much it startled me. She said “Monsanto is evil.” This is where the stress came in. I have read this before, but the fact that I was hearing it today since I’d been making a lot of effort to stay positive seemed like a test. Really. And to have the person, who I’ve pleasantly visited with for five minutes, looking right at me like I’m evil, having just said that heard I am part of Monsanto. It was certainly a test…a test of the Janice-response system.
Take a Deep Breath
Seriously, how often do you call someone evil & mean it? She was dead serious. This was no joke like when friends pull a practical joke & you jokingly say they are evil for playing along.
I paused and glanced out the window at the terminal wishing for a minute I had simply missed the flight, but I knew I had to have more of a conversation. And while I didn’t take notes, I started typing once the conversation had drifted off …. me to my i-pod and her to a book. I began to write quickly so I could capture what had just occurred. Hopefully that would make it more accurate.
I turned after catching my breath… “What about Monsanto, exactly, makes you think we are evil?”
“The whole monopoly… biotechnology… forcing your products on the third world… everything. I am much more of an organic person.”
I explain that I’ve worked in agriculture for almost 20 years, and a little more than two of those years have been at Monsanto. I’m very comfortable with what we do here. In fact, I have a deep confidence that we are helping improve the world. I also have a brother who farms organically & I don’t think we have to pick a single way to produce food, but that a combined approach may be best. I grin and say that I know if my brother and I can talk diplomatically, we can as well. She laughs and agrees.
“Okay, I’d like to understand a bit more. I don’t see how we can be accused of being a monopoly when my chief competition is DuPont, Bayer, etc. We do ag & ag only. And we do it really well.”
She acknowledges we have major competitors. Biotech food really bothers her. She brought up not wanting fish genes in her tomatoes (our company site has a post on this mistaken rumor). On biotech…I ask if she is familiar with the different kinds of biotech. I ask if she knows about insect-protected plants, because that was what first exposed me to biotech. She doesn’t so I want to explain how I see it.
My Experience in Cotton
To me, Bollgard has made the third world a better, healthier place. Early in my career, I had the chance to talk to some researchers at Rutgers and Auburn who were studying life expectancy and medical issues in rural China. Health in these areas, even life expectancy was better. Similar research seemed to indicate women farmers and their children in Africa were faring better as well. And I had heard first- and second-hand accounts all those years ago to corroborate the research
I say I’m probably more of a Peace Corps-type person than she could imagine. My earliest work with biotech was alongside a friend who had worked on water systems in Kenya. The friend worked for us in Africa, and I remember how she would tell stories of farmers who used biotech and advanced seed being able to build a second room on their house or send a daughter to school with the increased revenue. The farmers and my friend attributed this to the difference of increases in income due to biotech. For me, this is a major part of the power of biotech.
As I share my story, she can see my passion for agriculture. That passion has the power of science, but also a deep-seated belief in doing what’s right.
This connects to something I’ve seen first-hand… having had too many chances to see what science can do to heal. How medicine can make a difference, and that I think people forget how interconnected the life sciences are. My example is a boy that was in my sister’s class one year who had very painful issues with sickle cell. I sincerely would take anything from me, a fish, a tomato or whatever to help that boy if I could. To me, biotech offers that hope to both the boy struggling with disease and the world struggling to produce food with dwindling resources.
What about the third world?
We talk about how the people in the third world have the right to make decisions for themselves. I believe people deserve the opportunity to produce food for themselves so starvation isn’t such a plague. When I share this belief with people, it is frequently met with a similar concept…my seatmate brought up birth control . I’ve gotten strangely used to hearing people bring up population control it seems as the option to growing more food. But I don’t see it as either or.
My friend Percy from South Africa has been on a personal mission for more than a decade trying to get better information out in that country. It’s not just about unwanted pregnancy, but about stopping the spread of HIV, which has a horrible effect in many African countries. I agree with Percy’s concept–that educating people about practices and providing them access to different technologies can make a difference Biotech certainly has followed similar paths in other places, make it so children aren’t required to farm, let them go to school, let them improve their lives, and people see a different future for themselves. Of course my concept around access and education includes a comprehensive approach–birth control, education, agriculture, etc.
I was glad to see that this woman, who seemed so friendly, appeared interested in having the conversation rather than shutting her mind down to it. And I was a bit proud of myself for being able to hang in there. No doubt directly calling someone evil can be a bit of a hindrance to constructive conversation. After several minutes of ag discussion, we turned to other topics.
Moving on to Other Things
We talked about the care her friend was getting for her cancer (same specialist my grandmother used and one of the best). They were returning from a wedding in Pittsburgh, and there was a series of things happening there too…flights were complicated. Both of their husbands had to take alternate routes.
She was surprised to hear we live within a few miles of each other in Memphis, shop at the same bookstore and we love the same appetizer at a local restaurant. She was still surprised about my brother farming organically, and that I shop at the Fresh Market and Trader Joe’s at times. I was surprised the mention of Trader Joe’s brought up the idea of a petition to support its arrival in Memphis. I’d seen one online requesting a Trader Joe’s but was surprised when she said she didn’t sign because she worries Memphis couldn’t support both a Trader Joe’s and a Whole Foods. We both got a knowing laugh when I asked if that meant she supported Whole Foods having a monopoly.
Seriously though, the conversation started with what could have been an absolute ender for me if I had “bowed up.” (Note: guess this is a southern phrase, but it means to get mad and strike back.) But I took it as a chance to simply have a discussion. Not to shutdown due to the insult I felt, whether it was intended or not. As we prepared for the arrival in Memphis, she said she may see me at the bookstore. And I replied, maybe you’ll keep looking for information on what we talked about – maybe even talk to a few farmers. She said she had a friend who farmed cotton. He’s told her he couldn’t imagine farming without our technology, which was reassuring to me. I left reminding her how drought technology could be critical in a world with diminishing resources.
It was really good to get home.
Glynn says
What a great opportunity to broaden understanding, and you did it! Nice.
Mark Lambert says
Can you please teach me this kind of patience? Nice to know some people are still willing to engage in meaningful dialogue.
KyFarmersMatter says
Great job Janice!
LuAnn Troxel says
You are an absolute inspiration, Janice. Thanks so much for telling this story.
James says
In your shoes I definitely would have shut down and retreated behind headphones for the rest of the flight.
It was wonderful to be reminded that conversation really can make some people at least reconsider their initial views on biotechnology. Thank you.
Chad Smith says
Good response. Very valid points. Way to not get upset, but to take the issue on calmly.
You must have the patience of Job, JP
Meghan says
Thank you for a another great article. Love hearing abou these kind of stories. And proud that you are out there communicating with others regarding ag!!
Andy Kleinschmidt says
Good. Very interesting read, and I appreciated the way you managed the discussion.
AK
john blue says
Thanks for sharing this. These are the types of connections we need to continue to make. Sharing the story and the reason for being help bring (hopefully) others in the conversation toward understanding those involved in agriculture.
John Blue
Mike Barnett says
Well said. More of us in agriculture need to take this approach.
Chris Sukalski says
Nice Job! I actually kind of look forward to the educational opportunity an unknown airplane seatmate presents. I haven’t sat by one who was that polarized though.
Debbie Lyons-Blythe says
Well done! It isn’t easy to talk with someone who has their mind made up against you or your cause, but so many really don’t have good information that we have a responsibility to diving into that conversation and trying to make a connection. Thanks for writing about it too!
jill meisenheimer says
You handled this well! A lot would have said nothing or said too much/too loud and either way a teaching moment, lost. Love the blog as usual.
Matt says
geeez. good job. not an easy thing to do.
Yijung Jung says
You are an incredible communicator. It is never an easy thing to do. Thanks for sharing.
mzfarmads says
Janice,
You handled this brilliantly! It sounds like the lady you were visiting with had some viable gray matter also. Too many times folks have an opinion based on not knowing the facts and don’t want to hear opposing views, let alone discuss them intelligently. Remember the old saying, “how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!”
Scott Kreaman says
Janice-
Well done, I always am glad to hear when people are not afraid to take a minute of their time to educate people more about agriculture.
Since I joined twitter I dont know how many people have told me that Monsanto is evil and control everything I do on my farm. This represents one of the biggest misconceptions about Monsanto! First Monsanto would be nothing without the farmer, if I dont like their product I simply dont use it, so in reality they are subject to me.
Glad to hear that you and all the cotton farmers had a safe and interesting trip home from your meeting
Scott
Andy says
I had the opportunity to meet a number of Monsanto’s senior people this summer, and they didn’t appear “evil” to me. On the contrary, they were quite down to earth as you might expect from folks who deal with the agricultural community. Good for them (and you) for marketing the business so successfully!
Lisa says
Janice, your patience is amazing; love the “Janice-response” system. I’d say you have an amazing firewall in place.
william connor says
Ny Times sunday Print + E-magazine has an excellent non professional submission end of magazine last page feature column.
This would profile your excellent writing and expression skill.We live in a world that needs more honest Dialogue- despite major differences of Opinion
regards Bill
Janice says
Thanks Bill. That’s quite a compliment! I will check into it but can’t imagine that it would make it through the cut. No hurt in trying though!
Anastasia says
Wonderful conversation. I think it helps to put a human face on the discussion and to show that science and ag aren’t about absolutes.
Gregg Archibald says
Janice – fortunately time hasn’t changed you much. You’re still smart, fun, loving, and patient.
Janice Person says
Thank you so much for such sweet words. You make me smile and touch my heart at the same time just like a million years ago! It has been FOREVER since I’ve seen you pop up! Hope all is well in the world of Gregg. Take care of yourself and shout sometime when you get to the middle of the country!
Sarah [NurseLovesFarmer.com] says
Wonderful story, Janice – you handled yourself so eloquently! When you prompted me to this post…i thought it would be involving someone different 😉
Janice Person says
LOL!
john lord says
As religion retreats, morality which includes such things as the concept of evil, moves into other areas.Enviromentalism seems to be where a lot of this morality has gone. Monsanto has unfairly got tarred with this evil brush. Wrong place, wrong time, I suspect.
Janice Person says
Agreed. It could have just as easily been any of several other entities.
Janice Person says
Thanks Kellie. It’s important to remember not everyone has the same background.
Based on the recent pull of the topic, I wrote a new one this week that cues back to this one too.